The Hillary Haven

President HIllary

Following Obama, and supporting him in 2008, I sort of disliked Hillary for her campaigning. She seemed a bit mean at times, and almost racist. But I took a second look at her when she lost, and realized she was not like that at all, but compassionate and passionate about people and the world. I realized that she was simply following the advice of her former husband’s advisers. They were afraid that unless she came across a certain way, she would not be tough enough to be considered Presidential. No woman had ever been truly viable for a Presidential nomination before, and so she followed what was the accepted path.

But when she lost,she and Obama became true partners and friends: I grew to appreciate her loyal and successful service for Obama, and the fact that he had such high regard for her changed my mind considerably. She put in the work and the time and the world was more stable when she was Secretary of State

The Hillary Haven will open on 1/2/2018. A special spot for the Woman who would/should have been President. It’s a membership only forum designed to appreciate and inform about Hillary Clinton. Members only because I’m not interested in spam or people who want to fight/re-fight 2016.

Go away, Bernbots. He’s lying to you if he’s going to run in 2020. He would be 79, and at 79 doesn’t really want to run and become confined to a desk in Washigton. Better to be a gadly in a safe Senate seat. Also he knows he isn’t going to get the kid glove treatment this time. He’d be called out pretty quick in a field of Dem rivals.

And the Trumpers are also jonesing for a rematch, or failing that, they need Hillary to lead the resistance in order to get their hate on. And Hillary isn’t auditioning to be that Leader either. They can’t really indulge in Hillary Hate and stir up the sexists if all she’s doing is signing books (BTW she has a lot of them already, and will be writing more, I bet)

Hillary isn’t going to run because she realizes she had two shots already, and she’s 70 and doesn’t want to be compared to John McCain in age wise. She’s made history, and everyday is proving why she should have been President in the first place.

Nor does she want to get in the way of the activists who are fighting Trumpism and some Bernbot stuff. Celebrity tends to overpower at times. People tend to pay attention to the celebrity, not the cause, and her presence does just that.

And I have a feeling that she’s going to be more significant to the world than she would have been as President anyway. She would have spent all her time batting off the crazies and not on her agenda. While batting off the crazies is important, it’s no way to get things advanced.

She will find advancement in being free to work on those things she loves without worrying about votes.

Her loss will make a make a million flowers bloom and revive the democracy she holds dear.

Joseph, Mary, and Alabama Republicans

About Jesus, Mary and Joseph and early marriage: Back then life was hard, hard, hard. There was no safety net or school. Girls were married off early to older men who had finally accumulated enough wealth to care for other people because that was the only alternative. Boys were also farmed out at 15 in order to work the farm or be an apprentice and they too were exploited. And there were no doubt male creepers who also exploited their “farmhands” for that too. And even then, it was considered the best of bad options. Literature is a good indication: think of all the stories about older men going off to find their wives had fallen for younger men who at least paid attention to them, or the stories about older men who were suddenly found dead-widowhood was better than living with a creep. Guinevere/Lancelot/Arthur, for example. Or a fair amount of Shakespeare or other plays with the stories of cuckolded or even murdered older husbands. “The Merry Widow” was merry because she was still young and had all the money in the world with no need (at least for a while) to marry. And it wasn’t always apparent, especially in the days before modern forensics and medicine, that the widow wasn’t a natural widow either.

So Mary had no choice but to marry Joseph. Now she may have liked him, (and remember, according to the stories that are being retold this season, was a virgin) so Joseph wasn’t creeping on her, being an honorable man. But that was 2000 years ago. What other practices have we advanced beyond in a couple of millenia? Blood sacrifices in the temple? Crucifixion? Chariot races and fights in the Coliseum? We let go of those practices without regret because we grew out of them and because there were better options and because the collective consciousness evolved enough (that word that freaks out Alabama Republicans) that we were no longer willing the accept the suffering and cruelty as a necessary price for whatever benefits they conferred. Child marriage is now going the same way and soon will be looked at the same way, as bad practices that are no longer tolerable ,and will not be missed either once it finally goes away.

And the Republicans in Alabama who defend this creep, have their brains fallen out of their heads? Do they have daughters, and would they want a 32 year old guy creeping on them if they were 14 year olds? The hypocrisy reeks like a dumpster that hasn’t been cleaned out in weeks.

I know this much: if a 32-year old man had exploited me in the way Moore had, they would just now be finding his body. Mom didn’t play. “Please Mrs. Johnson, can you at least tell us where you buried him so we could give him a proper burial?”

The Hillary Haven


Tonight I created what may be only one of two forums. One is Hillary Haven, to centralize all the things that Hillary is doing now, and the other might be something on the lines of better voting and better liberal media. I used to have forums before but keeping up with them is hard to do without help. So they will be closed until January 1st when I can take more time.

They will be membership forums-people will have to formally join them after the first comment. And they will be moderated forums as well.


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