On Third Parties

http://drivewesaid.com/thread.php?string=&author=CarolDuhart2&id=569&search

 

The older I get, the less logic I see in going third party. Third parties rarely win, even locally, so their influence is at best, marginal. Better to take that energy and become a coalition within whichever major party is compatible with your views. -A Green Caucus within the Democratic Party could at least put members into administrative or regulatory institutions or the bench, reach out to various constituencies for support. A Green Party will do nothing but attract cranks and the marginal.

It’s no accident that the groups who most need legislation and tangible results don’t go third party. Third parties in the United States are at best feel-good institutio, at worst, cult-like in nature. People who could win real elections don’t bother, and if someone like that actually joins, they soon quit and join the majors. So it becomes a continuous loop of failure.

The result is also a narrowing of political discourse in several ways. As a faction inside one of the two parties, at least certain issues could get a more general hearing and a wider audience, Yes, not everything will ever get enacted-there is such a thing as “impossible” in democratic discourse, but at least they will be discussed before being dismissed. And some things could work at least on a local level

The Senate Game for Republicans

Right now, the game for Republicans is to keep the House at all costs. The Senate can’t be gerrymandered like the House, and with demographic shifts, Texas, Florida, and soon (Arizona) will be pretty wobbly not only on the Presidential level, but soon on the Senatorial level as well.

From drive we said…. http://drivewesaid.com/thread.php?id=569&postNum=42606

That was written 2 years ago. And I probably thought it was at least until 2020 before we saw Arizona as competitive. But back then, even people who thought that Trump would run didn’t think he would go that far-or was that toxic. An educated guess would be that the Republican would at least keep the low number of Hispanics they already had, and that nobody would bait that bear. Hispanic hating would be done by lower level bigots who could be dismissed as non-representative crazies.

But nobody asked Donald Trump anything…

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